Topic: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

Hey, there.


Here's another one I got a long time ago (1 year last summer), and almost never used, because it gave so bad results tongue.

Got it in OM mount, and adapted to Pentax K, pretty straightforward mount swap. Had a bit of fungus in the rear element IIRC, but cleaned OK, no trouble. Also had stiff blades (oil), cleaned OK, even witout full disassembly.

All was going well, until I tryed it.

AWFULL!!! Even stopped down to 5,6, nothing I got out of it even compared to other lenses I had sad. So, it ended back in a shelve and I sort of forgot about it...

A couple of weeks ago, e decided it could not be that bad, no one would ever pay extra to get a fast tele that rendered like a regular one with vaseline smeared all over it (believe me, it was THAT bad tongue).


So, started to dismantle it. Should have done that before mad.

Just below the front element, there's the second element, held by a retaining ring. Wich was LOOSE!!! DAH!!! tongue.


After fixing that, tinkered a little more with it and got auto aperture, with limitations. It is OK, but works only up to about f-8 hmm. If I get some time I'll post a how-to and explain why it won't go further.

Anyway, here's what this post is about, sample pics.


f-2,8

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/2/photos/11/600x600/1/f-28.JPG?et=GMHJkTstkHlJSd5ivjCDIA&nmid=495317024

f-4

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/1/photos/11/600x600/2/f-4.JPG?et=kQDUOWgKsVfDPN3KkIbQ8Q&nmid=495317024

f-5,6

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/1/photos/11/600x600/3/f-56.JPG?et=h%2CQOHP8JxCV8DZtFM%2Bm9vw&nmid=495317024

f-8

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/1/photos/11/600x600/4/f-8.JPG?et=lnvpf%2BUrgdqcldNSuKRbEw&nmid=495317024



And with strong OOF highlights:



f-2,8

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/2/photos/11/600x600/6/f-28.JPG?et=BHntsPHit7679c9MIXWLNA&nmid=495318264

f-4

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/2/photos/11/600x600/7/f-4.JPG?et=TRyxfqOKfH1tVtmNADAyow&nmid=495318264

f-5,6

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/2/photos/11/600x600/8/f-56.JPG?et=SDnBmB3Xm6Q8uAEG9W%2BtOA&nmid=495318264

f-8

http://multiply.com/mu/glimavitor/image/2/photos/11/600x600/9/f-8.JPG?et=HdbUmmtsSVFqzwJtQKmLxA&nmid=495318264

I kinda like it, I must say smile...



Cheers!

Nikon: D7000; F2; F4; FA. RMC Tokina 17/3,5; Ensinor 24/2,8 Macro; Nikkor: S.C. 50/1,4; AI-s 28/2,8; Micro 55/2,8; 80-200/4; S. E: 35/2,5; 100/2,8; Viv. S. 1 105/2,5 Macro (Kiron); MC Rokkor PG 58/1,2; Canon FD 300/4; Pentacon 135/2,8.
Pentax: K20D; CZJ Flek 20/4; SMC Pentax: A 28/2,8; 50/1,7; M 50/1,4; Tak. 50/1,4; Tamron Adall 2: SP 90/2,5 Macro; SP 60-300; 35-70/3,5 CF; .
And some others...

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

this reminds me i bought a massive beast of a SUN  f=3.5 38-90mm. i thought it was awful at the time. large, soft, stray light magnet. but i was looking over some test shots i did and it has a nice tonal quality. You've inspired me to drag it out of the cupboard and give it another go.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

I had to take a look, not believing anyone would want to show an image from a Sun lens. In my film days, pre AF, etc. Sun lenses were known to be consistently awful.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

Well I picked up an old M42 Sun 85-210 f4.5 for £2 and on a film camera is quite good just a supermarket dev and scan:-

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/chakrata/Sun85-210.jpg

@85mm
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/chakrata/Sun85-1000px%20-%20Copy_zpst3g98zgw.jpg

@135mm
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/chakrata/sun135-1000px%20-%20Copy_zpshrke0hp2.jpg

@200mm
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/chakrata/sun200mm-1000px%20-%20Copy_zpscsegj23l.jpg

Nikon FM, F90x, EM, F90x, Canon AV1, A1, T70 & T90, Minolta X-700, SRT101b and AFZ, Pentax S3, Fuji STX-2, Practica MTL3, TL5b, BC1, Chinon Chinon CE,  Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1 & C35, Yashica T5D, Olympus OM2, Contax139, Ricoh KR-10,  Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony DSC-P92
.........past gear Tele Rollieflex and Rollei SL66.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

I am pleasantly surprised. The main thing is that the results please you.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

e6filmuser wrote:

I am pleasantly surprised. The main thing is that the results please you.

Well compared to a modern digital zoom there is no contest but I was surprised it was quite sharp overall...anyway I have better zooms that I use.
Maybe sun started off with decent lenses (I don't know if sun made them or subcontacted the work out) and then everything went downhill with your experience......for me it's the only Sun lens I have so the jury is out.

Last edited by excalibur (2016-02-11 13:12:49)

Nikon FM, F90x, EM, F90x, Canon AV1, A1, T70 & T90, Minolta X-700, SRT101b and AFZ, Pentax S3, Fuji STX-2, Practica MTL3, TL5b, BC1, Chinon Chinon CE,  Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1 & C35, Yashica T5D, Olympus OM2, Contax139, Ricoh KR-10,  Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony DSC-P92
.........past gear Tele Rollieflex and Rollei SL66.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

I don't know if Sun changed their quality.

So far as I remember, Tokina started off pretty poor but got their act together and produced some of the best lenses for film.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

Well I had a look on the net and can't find anyone with a hidden gem Sun lens and not much info about Sun owners...so with many other very good lenses around maybe the general advice would be to avoid them like you inferred.

Nikon FM, F90x, EM, F90x, Canon AV1, A1, T70 & T90, Minolta X-700, SRT101b and AFZ, Pentax S3, Fuji STX-2, Practica MTL3, TL5b, BC1, Chinon Chinon CE,  Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1 & C35, Yashica T5D, Olympus OM2, Contax139, Ricoh KR-10,  Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony DSC-P92
.........past gear Tele Rollieflex and Rollei SL66.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

excalibur wrote:

Well I had a look on the net and can't find anyone with a hidden gem Sun lens and not much info about Sun owners.

Do you expect them to admit it?

In their day, they were a budget entry in some types of lenses. Today, many better ones are very affordable.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

e6filmuser wrote:
excalibur wrote:

Well I had a look on the net and can't find anyone with a hidden gem Sun lens and not much info about Sun owners.

Do you expect them to admit it?

Yeah sure why not..... a gem is a gem and it doesn't really matter who made the lens as long as it gives very good results...maybe some one has Sun lens that stands out that we don't know about or the same lens could be under another name that people recommend.......afterall it is only because of the internet forums that we know, for example, how many makes of a Vivitar lens exist and which ones are usually better.

Nikon FM, F90x, EM, F90x, Canon AV1, A1, T70 & T90, Minolta X-700, SRT101b and AFZ, Pentax S3, Fuji STX-2, Practica MTL3, TL5b, BC1, Chinon Chinon CE,  Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1 & C35, Yashica T5D, Olympus OM2, Contax139, Ricoh KR-10,  Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony DSC-P92
.........past gear Tele Rollieflex and Rollei SL66.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

excalibur wrote:

it is only because of the internet forums that we know, for example, how many makes of a Vivitar lens exist and which ones are usually better.

I have to say that I am a beneficiary in a big way.

Re: Sun Tele-Auto 200 mm f-2,8 MC

AAMOI  some Spiratone and accura were another name for sun lenses...and came across this http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews … photo.html   and HUH the guy gave it 9 out of 10 for sharpness...well maybe compared to some zooms at the time but I tested it a few years ago against a 135mm prime (comparing my 135mms) and it was no contest looking at large crops.

Nikon FM, F90x, EM, F90x, Canon AV1, A1, T70 & T90, Minolta X-700, SRT101b and AFZ, Pentax S3, Fuji STX-2, Practica MTL3, TL5b, BC1, Chinon Chinon CE,  Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1 & C35, Yashica T5D, Olympus OM2, Contax139, Ricoh KR-10,  Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony DSC-P92
.........past gear Tele Rollieflex and Rollei SL66.