Topic: Photosniper

It's only a toy, I know, but I couldn't resist. I've purchased the photosniper set from an ebay-seller for about 40 Euros today. Normally it's been sold for much more in the german ebay section, but this auction was named only as "zenit with accessoires". The photo and the text not only shows the full photosniper accessoires (without using any correct name) including a helios and the tair 300, but also a 85/f2 - yes, another jupiter-9, this maybe repaid me the 40 Euros smile

The set seems to be rarely used, "only" issues - the seller notes that the aperture of the tair is stuck and the battery of the 12xps is empty. I hope I can fix it. Does anyone knows what kind of battery is used in this camera? I am very very curious about the first results of the lens with my canon. And I am also curious about my first zenit with TTL - until now I only have two with selenium light meter.

Ahem, did I mention that I am hooked? wink

Last edited by Borges (2006-08-20 19:11:58)

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Take a look at http://www.yellowsofa.net/zenit

he reckons 2xLR6 for the 12XP - don't know about 12xps

Enjoy your new toy!

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It would seem you definitely got your moneys worth with this kit. Congratulations on a good deal. big_smile
-Bruce

I put that adapter in a safe place, never to be seen again.

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Take a lot of care when using the photosniper, with all the terrorist paranoia of these days you can easily be jailed or worse (no kidding); I don't  know how things are going in Germany with the police and so.
Also, congratulations. That is a lot of "junk" for 40

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al wrote:

Take a lot of care when using the photosniper, with all the terrorist paranoia of these days you can easily be jailed or worse (no kidding); I don't  know how things are going in Germany with the police and so.
Also, congratulations. That is a lot of "junk" for 40

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JUst use it without the stock ( my opreference is a monopod instead ) and mate it to a new and better camera body.

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FTL wrote:

JUst use it without the stock ( my opreference is a monopod instead ) and mate it to a new and better camera body.

Yes, that's my imagination. I've seen it attached to a digital rebel without the stock, using a wired release. I don't want to use the "gun" outside of my garden, they are looking for terrorists behind every tree today wink


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Strike!
Yesterday the parcel service brought a huge package with a very strong smell of a deep and clammy cellar. First look: *ooops*, some aperture blades of the tair hanging loosely around. I had a hard time, couldn't wait until the kids went to bed.

I never have opened a lens up to the iris, but after three hours of working, cursing about russian fine mechanics and cleaning I got it: A wonderful and clean Tair 3s with smooth closing aperture. The seller obviously doesn't know what he sells. After this little maintaing I got a full Photosniper-Set FS-12 from with a zenit 12xps, filters, pistol-grip, stock, filters, helios 44m4 and more, only missing the bag.
And, as bonus, a Jupiter-9 from 1990 in mint condition, looking completely identical to my first one from 2005. Only difference is the missing imprinted "MC". Does that mean that the jupiters from the early 90s were not multicoated?

I took some testshots with the tair and my 350d, but it was to dark outside and this combination is hard to hold. A very heavy lens, I wonder if it is possible to shoot unblurred pictures.

Comment from Yvonne: "And now? What are you want to do with this stuff?" I can't explain...   wink

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Borges wrote:

Comment from Yvonne: "And now? What are you want to do with this stuff?" I can't explain...   wink

Borges,

What a question ?

Women have so little fantasy & imagination.

smile

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Lets recap here, You got a Tair 300mm lens, a Helios 44m, a Jupiter 9, a 35mm film body that takes M42 mount lenses, & a Photo Sniper stock, all for 40 Euros? You did VERY well here. big_smile

Borges wrote:

Comment from Yvonne: "And now? What are you want to do with this stuff?"

Sorry, You're on your own here. wink
-Bruce

I put that adapter in a safe place, never to be seen again.

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For those who haven't seen a Fotosnaiper FS12-2 until now:

Tair 3s with Zenit 12xps:
http://www.winken-zemke.de/michael/tair3/slides/tair5.jpg

Tair 3s - very unusual method to focus:
http://www.winken-zemke.de/michael/tair3/slides/tair1.jpg

Testshots? Yes. Only boring roofs and trees. Sharp, but nothing worth to show here wink

Last edited by Borges (2006-08-27 21:24:19)

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Borges wrote:

For those who haven't seen a Fotosnaiper FS12-2 until now:

Tair 3s with Zenit 12xps:
http://www.winken-zemke.de/michael/tair … /tair5.jpg

Tair 3s - very unusual method to focus:
http://www.winken-zemke.de/michael/tair … /tair1.jpg

Testshots? Yes. Only boring roofs and trees. Sharp, but nothing worth to show here wink

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O.k., o.k., here we go: Just samples ;-) , adapted to 350d without tripod


Focus about 80 meters, f5.6, 1/320s
http://www.winken-zemke.de/img/tair_test.jpg

Focus about 6 meters, f5.6, 1/200s. nearly impossible to hold wink
http://www.winken-zemke.de/img/tair_test2.jpg

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That Photo Sniper kit looks very nice, as do the image's from it. big_smile
I have looked at these before on ebay, and at one point was thinking about picking one up. The ones I looked at came in a fitted metal container, that when closed, looked like a fishermans tackle box.
-Bruce

I put that adapter in a safe place, never to be seen again.

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How about some 1:1 crops? Low resolution samples aren't very expressive, unless one just wants to check out bokeh and vignetting.

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Bionet wrote:

How about some 1:1 crops?

Not sure that this is what it's about in this instance. For 1:1 crops of a telephoto you would want to put the thing on a tripod, but it's designed to be hand held!

I wonder if that form of support gives any real advantage over a conventional grip, it might be more comfortable I guess, but does it allow you to use a lower shutter speed?

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bionet wrote:

How about some 1:1 crops? Low resolution samples aren't very expressive, unless one just wants to check out bokeh and vignetting.

I had considered about posting a 1:1 crop but I deleted it because I was afraid of starting a thread full of brick walls and roofs (like similar threads in the german dslr-forum). So I decided to give only a first glimpse of the output using the dcraw-engine of FixFoto. But you are right, this way it's good for nothing if you want to decide about the lens performance, sorry wink



Wheelman wrote:

I wonder if that form of support gives any real advantage over a conventional grip, it might be more comfortable I guess, but does it allow you to use a lower shutter speed?

The tair 3s has no standard tripod thread (diameter is too large), so you have to use a wall-tripod smile . Without shooting real photos, I think this construction allows to use slightly lower shutter speeds. The weight distribution is much better than without. Only problem when using with a dslr is the missing function of the trigger, I read about someone who attached a wired trigger to the pistol grip.

And NO, I don't want to try this within a radius of 3 kilometers of an airport. Some volunteers here? wink

Last edited by Borges (2006-08-28 07:35:54)

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Looks good.... what a bargain! big_smile

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Borges wrote:

because I was afraid of starting a thread full of brick walls and roofs (like similar threads in the german dslr-forum).

What, are you trying to tell me the primary use of photographic equipment is NOT to take photos of brick walls for resolution tests?? smile

And NO, I don't want to try this within a radius of 3 kilometers of an airport.

At least at Hamburg Airport I bet nobody cares. I've been on the viewing platform with my Pentacon 4/200 there and I'm sure I could have used the Novoflex quickshot. I mount that one to the tripod using the bellows, turning it upside down so the pistol grip points upwards. The real problem is that focusing with this grip is far too inaccurate to meet today's standards. I only focus using the bellows.

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Very nice pictures. Didn't expect to find such a contrast at 80 metres.
BTW, your nick ( sorry but I'm more curious then a cat - hope live longer) is inspired by Jorge Luis Borges ?

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I read (somewhere) that certain folks regard that Tair 300mm lens highly. I think after seing these, they were probably right. big_smile
Found this. http://www.commiecameras.com/sov/35mmsi … /index.htm According to this page, the Tair 300mm beat the Jupiter 9 & Helios 44 in not only center, but edge resolution. hmm
-Bruce

I put that adapter in a safe place, never to be seen again.

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Ballen Photo wrote:

I read (somewhere) that certain folks regard that Tair 300mm lens highly. I think after seing these, they were probably right. big_smile
Found this. http://www.commiecameras.com/sov/35mmsi … /index.htm According to this page, the Tair 300mm beat the Jupiter 9 & Helios 44 in not only center, but edge resolution. hmm
-Bruce

That's for the M-39 lenses. One wouldn't expect that the mount would make a difference, but the figures for the M-42 versions are different. In that mount the Tair is comparable to the Helios 44-1, but later models of the Helios pull away.

In fact it's interesting to see improvement in each successive model of the Helios, to the point that the 44-6 and 44-7 are WAY better than the early iterations (if these figures are to be believed).

That is an interesting list. The K-mount Zenitar 16 shows the highest center resolution of any production lens on the charts, but it is way down at the edges.

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Scribo wrote:

That's for the M-39 lenses. One wouldn't expect that the mount would make a difference, but the figures for the M-42 versions are different.

OOPS! My mistake. I was reading on this site, http://www.commiecameras.com/sov/35mmsi … /index.htm (scroll down to the bottom.) It says the mounts on the Tair are interchangeable between M39 & M42? hmm
Edit; I see what happened here. You have to select "M42" on the menu at the left, then scroll to the bottom. For some reason it defaulted to the first page in these links.
-Bruce

I put that adapter in a safe place, never to be seen again.

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Those images are encouraging...better than I expected.
I think I'll get one of these and get dressed up like Rambo...perhaps a little stroll through downtown Phoenix.

Actually, I see people with side-arms on a fairly regular basis.  Completely legal without a permit.  Concealed is possible with a permit.  I have one, but rarely carry now that I have curious children with me at all times.

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One on sale....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenit-Photo-Sniper- … dZViewItem

But S&H to US is 70pounds... thats more than one ay fare to UK in pre-9/11 days...

There are few bidders too..  anyone from here..

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