Discuss how to buy, fix, clean, and use all the old manual focus photography kit you can find.
M42, Pentacon 6, Contax, Leica, Canon, Nikkor, Carl Zeiss Jena, Asahi Pentax Takumars etc!
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I have in my closet some slide films which are not usable , being outdated for 10 years or more ; I thought to bin them but I gave , yesterday , a last chance to an Ektachrome 64 . I shot 36 pics near Toulon (with a Lomo 135 ) , then I processed it like a B&W film in HC110 for 10mn at 20C , fixed it et voila !
http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/33 … 0089_LTfge
http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/33 … 9805_EpjDq
the grain is large but the tonality is nice , the sky and its Cirrus are well rendered ; I will not bin these old slides films .
What do you think of this try , do you suggest any improvement ...?
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I like them. Certainly worth the effort.
I accidentaly cross processed color in my black and white chemistry. They came out surprisingly well.
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Well I never! - I like the effect too. I've got some old provia that I'll keep now!
I wonder what effect I'll get with diafine? Massive grain perhaps.
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Now, this is amazing!
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Wait a minute - this is Kodachrome 64 processed in B&W chemistry? It works? No bleaching step or anything like that? Just develop/stop/fix/wash?
If I am reading this correct, then your results are outstanding IMO.
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No , no it's EKTACHROME 64 , and I processed it exactly as if it was a Plus X , B& W film : developer , fixer and tape water .
You give me the idea to try this process with a very old Kodachrome 64 in 126 format !
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I forgot to precise that the result of this process is a NEGATIVE B&W FILM : I started with a slide colour film and ended with a neg B&W film .
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Found more on this:
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/6164 … icals.html
And a quote from one of the respondents:
Density of the negatives won't be great, as your bog standard C41 doesn't have tons of silver in it compared to standard B&W. The density of C41 negs comes mainly from dye clouds formed during processing.
The orange mask of standard colour films can also be a PITA for printing onto standard B&W paper. Maskless films like Digibase, XP2, or reversal films designed for E6 (Or Kodachrome) don't have this problem.
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Very interesting , I also tried , years ago , to develop C41 in B&W chemistry and as the respondent wrote , the orange mask is so dense that you need very long times in the enlarger and most of the images are low contrast But for some contrasty shots , it works very well with a very fine grain , almost not visible ,as you can't get with Tmax 100 .
As an other respondent wrote , with a reversal film , you get a nice neg with a light yellow hue which is no problem in the enlarger .
Thank you Carpents...
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What a delightful discovery.
They came out quite well, with the exception of the alreaded noted grain size.
I had no idea that you could do this. ![]()
-Bruce
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A brave experiment that worked! Nice looking images.
I have processed colour slide film in the past, and, with the film and chemistry I was using, you had to expose it to a specified light source for a given time mid way through the process. I presume that was the reversal part, that you have not done. Your results are rather more successful than mine, I seem to recall genuine colour, but with an unpleasant yellow cast. ![]()
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C41 in BW chemistry....
http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=12206
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...and you got a fine grain . Did you try to enlarge the negs with an enlarger or did you scan them ?
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ikonpeter wrote:
...and you got a fine grain . Did you try to enlarge the negs with an enlarger or did you scan them ?
Just scanned. I don't do a wet darkroom.
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