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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ikonpeter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...and you got a fine grain&nbsp; . Did you try to enlarge the negs with an enlarger or did you scan them ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Just scanned.&nbsp; I don&#039;t do a wet darkroom.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazedgonebye]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-04T18:22:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>...and you got a fine grain&nbsp; . Did you try to enlarge the negs with an enlarger or did you scan them ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ikonpeter]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-04T18:04:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>C41 in BW chemistry....<br /><a href="http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=12206">http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=12206</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazedgonebye]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-04T17:16:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A brave experiment that worked! Nice looking images.</p><p>I have processed colour slide film in the past, and, with the film and chemistry I was using, you had to expose it to a specified light source for a given time mid way through the process. I presume that was the reversal part, that you have not done. Your results are rather more successful than mine, I seem to recall genuine colour, but with an unpleasant yellow cast. <img src="http://forum.manualfocus.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Wheelman]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-04T17:11:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What a delightful discovery. <img src="http://forum.manualfocus.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> They came out quite well, with the exception of the alreaded noted grain size. <br />I had no idea that you could do this. <img src="http://forum.manualfocus.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /><br />-Bruce</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ballen Photo]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-03T02:45:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting , I also tried , years&nbsp; ago , to develop C41 in B&amp;W chemistry and as the respondent wrote , the orange mask is so dense that you need very long times in the enlarger and most of the images are low contrast But for some contrasty shots , it works very well with a very fine grain , almost not visible ,as you can&#039;t get with Tmax 100 .<br /> As an other respondent wrote , with a reversal film , you get a nice neg with a light yellow hue which is no problem in the enlarger .<br />Thank you Carpents...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ikonpeter]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-02T17:52:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Found more on this:<br /><a href="http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/61645-can-you-develop-colour-film-black-white-chemicals.html">http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/6164 … icals.html</a></p><p>And a quote from one of the respondents:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Density of the negatives won&#039;t be great, as your bog standard C41 doesn&#039;t have tons of silver in it compared to standard B&amp;W. The density of C41 negs comes mainly from dye clouds formed during processing.</p><p>The orange mask of standard colour films can also be a PITA for printing onto standard B&amp;W paper. Maskless films like Digibase, XP2, or reversal films designed for E6 (Or Kodachrome) don&#039;t have this problem.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carpents]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-02T14:39:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to precise that the result of this process is a NEGATIVE B&amp;W FILM : I started with a slide colour film and ended with a neg B&amp;W film .</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ikonpeter]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-02T05:49:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No , no it&#039;s EKTACHROME 64 , and I processed it exactly as if it was a Plus X , B&amp; W film : developer , fixer and tape water .<br />You give me the idea to try this process with a very old Kodachrome 64 in 126 format !</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ikonpeter]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T21:34:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute - this is Kodachrome 64 processed in B&amp;W chemistry?&nbsp; It works?&nbsp; No bleaching step or anything like that?&nbsp; Just develop/stop/fix/wash?</p><p>If I am reading this correct, then your results are outstanding IMO.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T20:37:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Now, this is amazing!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LucisPictor]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T18:56:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well I never! - I like the effect too.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got some old provia that I&#039;ll keep now! <img src="http://forum.manualfocus.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; I wonder what effect I&#039;ll get with diafine?&nbsp; Massive grain perhaps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Xpres]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T17:17:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like them.&nbsp; Certainly worth the effort.<br />I accidentaly cross processed color in my black and white chemistry.&nbsp; They came out surprisingly well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dazedgonebye]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T16:50:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Slide film processed in B&W...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have in my closet some slide films which are not usable , being outdated for 10 years or more ; I thought to bin them but I gave , yesterday , a last chance to an Ektachrome 64 . I shot 36 pics near Toulon (with a Lomo 135 ) , then I processed it like a B&amp;W film in HC110 for 10mn at 20C , fixed it&nbsp; et voila !</p><p><a href="http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/3397106_akngv#525630089_LTfge">http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/33 … 0089_LTfge</a></p><p><a href="http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/3397106_akngv#525629805_EpjDq">http://ikonpeter.smugmug.com/gallery/33 … 9805_EpjDq</a> <br />the grain is large but the tonality is nice , the sky and its Cirrus are well rendered ; I will not bin these old slides films .<br />What do you think of this try , do you suggest any improvement ...?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ikonpeter]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-05-01T16:34:31Z</updated>
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